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the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well because that's against the law. because that's against the law to cross my property. >> i'll let them know. >> honorary diplomatic council. jill kelley talking to tampa police asking for diplomatic protection. that's not something she should expect. we will dig into who miss kelley is in a moment. first i mentioned there's a lot of twists and turns and a lot of people with ties to this scandal. let's lay it out for you right now. retired general david petraeus resigned on friday after admitting an affai
the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know...
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e-mail bs by the fbi. she meets him when she attends a program where they learn how the fbi works. he does a briefing there. she chats him afterwards. when this happens, and this is much later, she contacts him and says i have this problem, can you get me to the right person. he brings her to the cyber squad. >> quick question again on paula broadwell. we've been led to believe that the fbi thinks there's nothing wrong, she had no classified documents. but last night, the fbi spent four hours at her house in north carolina pulling boxes out of her house. they said searching for additional information. does that suggest, do they think this is not over? >> as we reported yesterday, she did have classified documents, but she's also a major in the army reserve. she's got a security clearance. the question is how were those documents obtained and how were they stored? so they tidied up the search yesterday. they got a consensual search warrant. so they're looking for any other loose ends there. >> john miller,
e-mail bs by the fbi. she meets him when she attends a program where they learn how the fbi works. he does a briefing there. she chats him afterwards. when this happens, and this is much later, she contacts him and says i have this problem, can you get me to the right person. he brings her to the cyber squad. >> quick question again on paula broadwell. we've been led to believe that the fbi thinks there's nothing wrong, she had no classified documents. but last night, the fbi spent four...
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john miller former assistant mer fbi as fbi director joins us here. good morning again. >> >> good morning. >> so why was this fbi agent that knew joe kelley thrown off >> the case or was he? well, >> okay.teresting. that's interesting. he was never on the case. agent but he is the agent who brings into the the case into the office.l he knows jill kelley. citizens she's attended the fbi citizen's so w academy. he gave a presentation, gave her a card. they stay in touch. when she gets the e-mail she says i want to see who is uad. bringing these to these things. the he brings to it the cyber squad. they said, gee, there's no threat here but if it's a friend i of yours, we can open a case.s saying here is what's happening after t that, he's saying what's the they update, what's the update. they say it may involve not petraeus. y at some point they say we're not inform giving you anymore. this information seems to be funneling back to jill kelley. kell so he's cut out of the case not thrown off the case. >> that's the irony of this she whole thing. she st
john miller former assistant mer fbi as fbi director joins us here. good morning again. >> >> good morning. >> so why was this fbi agent that knew joe kelley thrown off >> the case or was he? well, >> okay.teresting. that's interesting. he was never on the case. agent but he is the agent who brings into the the case into the office.l he knows jill kelley. citizens she's attended the fbi citizen's so w academy. he gave a presentation, gave her a card. they stay in...
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everything from his initial reaction to how this was handled by the fbi. so first to the point of his initial reaction, if you take white house press secretary jay carney's briefing yesterday as a guide that gives you a sense that president obama will likely talk about that fact that he was stunned. he'll likely also thank general petraeus for his service to the country and also express his continued support of general allen while this investigation is ongoing. in terms of this other big question that lawmakers have been talking about quite a bit, this question of when president obama was informed about the entire situation, i think that you will hear president obama essentially defer those questions to the fbi. essentially not question the fbi's handling of this situation. that is what i expect. anyway, thomas, based on carney's briefing that we heard yesterday. this is such a stunning situation, because, remember, this is the last thing that president obama was expecting to talk about during his first press conference, what he intended to be focusing on,
everything from his initial reaction to how this was handled by the fbi. so first to the point of his initial reaction, if you take white house press secretary jay carney's briefing yesterday as a guide that gives you a sense that president obama will likely talk about that fact that he was stunned. he'll likely also thank general petraeus for his service to the country and also express his continued support of general allen while this investigation is ongoing. in terms of this other big...
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we have learned there was an fbi investigation underway. i think there are a number of questions raised, including, you know, at what point did the director of the fbi become aware of this? why was this just announced today? talk about your perspective on the implication, broadly speaking on our nation's intelligence efforts and the benghazi investigation? >> well, first of all, it's sad fall from grace. i feel for his wife. nobody should have to go through that. but this is highly suspicious, in its timing t. comes days after an election, a very important election. it comes days before he's set to testify before the house intelligence committee. and it really begs the question of what did the fbi know? and when did they know it? how long did they sit on that information? general petraeus briefed the senate about what happened in benghazi. did he have this looming over his head? what -- what is the real timing here, liz? that's the real question that i think going forward is so imperative that we get to the bottom of. >> also, the issue, as
we have learned there was an fbi investigation underway. i think there are a number of questions raised, including, you know, at what point did the director of the fbi become aware of this? why was this just announced today? talk about your perspective on the implication, broadly speaking on our nation's intelligence efforts and the benghazi investigation? >> well, first of all, it's sad fall from grace. i feel for his wife. nobody should have to go through that. but this is highly...
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they passed the information on to the fbi here. there's definitely some real questions about what was the motivation of that fbi agent in reporting that. >> what it comes down with the house and senate intel committee going to vet all of this with hearings, we're going to find out that the right wing is early terribly wrong or they were onto something? that's the way it's going to come down. >> and that maybe the investigation and everything that happened happened the way -- just as a reminder, the protocols in place at the department of justice, he reminded everybody of that under george bush. >> yes, he did. karen finney, thank you. there's a lot more in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay right with us. >> is traditional america gone for good? >> the mayor of cable news cannot believe white men are losing their grip on power. mike and joan will break down his latest tirade. >> mr. obama won the woman vote, blacks and asians but the hispanic vote really nailed romney. it was an entitlement vote this year. >> get up kriss kr
they passed the information on to the fbi here. there's definitely some real questions about what was the motivation of that fbi agent in reporting that. >> what it comes down with the house and senate intel committee going to vet all of this with hearings, we're going to find out that the right wing is early terribly wrong or they were onto something? that's the way it's going to come down. >> and that maybe the investigation and everything that happened happened the way -- just as...
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that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that. >> joe sestak, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of layoffs. he's blaming president obama's re-election. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the re-election of our first african-american president. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson will weigh in on the racist reactions around the country. >>> thanks for staying with us tonight. the leader of a comp
that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that....
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now the fbi reportedly stepped up its efforts to find out how broadwell obtained the classified information found on her computer. and right there, is visuals of the other woman, jill kelly. who many just describe as, military fund raiser. >> right. quick point here. come on now, paula was in the window drinking a glass of wine. has better lighting than we do now, with the world media kind of watching her now. seems slightly staged. just saying. oh, well. sure she has a pr crew doing their thing now. as for the other woman in the scandal though she has not been accused of any wrongdoing, jill kelly has now hired a top washington criminal defense lawyer. >> she also hired a publicist. the same one who represented. monica lewinsky. >> ah. >> abc's chief investigative correspondent, brian ross, set out to learn how she forged such a close relationship with the generals. >> reporter: jill kelly spent the day at her home in tampa not answering questions. in the background a television could be seen with news coverage of the peyton place like military sex scandal that focused attention on who she
now the fbi reportedly stepped up its efforts to find out how broadwell obtained the classified information found on her computer. and right there, is visuals of the other woman, jill kelly. who many just describe as, military fund raiser. >> right. quick point here. come on now, paula was in the window drinking a glass of wine. has better lighting than we do now, with the world media kind of watching her now. seems slightly staged. just saying. oh, well. sure she has a pr crew doing...
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that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that. >> joe sestak, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of layoffs. he's blaming president obama's re-election. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the re-election of our first african-american president. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson will weigh in on the racist reactions around the country. g to come back from rough economic times. employees are bein
that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that....
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i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing related to kelly, this becomes the fbi's cyber division is concerned that petraeus's private e-mail is hacked in to. that's why they continue this and the crime they're looking at. this is a red herring about harassment of jill kelly, a private citizen and a social liaison. ludicrous. that's not a predicate. >> do you think they overstepped that? >> go ahead, tom. >> determination would be made that, you know, what's the content of these messages? they would take that to the u.s. attorney's office and determine whether or not this might b
i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing...
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what is the fbi's motive in all of this? andrea, just real quick, if you can a thought on that. >> that's another thing. it doesn't add up. she felt she was being harassed so she called the fbi again they just happened to stumble upon the man involved in this as general petraeus? i think the biggest question again, martha, four dead americans, potential cover-up after benghazi. did this affair affect the cover-up or the alleged cover-up. >> or was it just "gossip girls.". martha: also the fact that this story gets so much more attention all across the networks and all across the media than benghazi and death than murder of our ambassador ever did another thing we'll look into and talk about. jehmu, andrea, thank you. we'll see you later. bill: turkey is threatening to step up its military response to border violence by syria. today is the second day of an air bombardment by syrian warplanes. here is the video. listen to this. [explosion] bill: that is a fierce line of weaponry there. leland vittert live on the ground there i
what is the fbi's motive in all of this? andrea, just real quick, if you can a thought on that. >> that's another thing. it doesn't add up. she felt she was being harassed so she called the fbi again they just happened to stumble upon the man involved in this as general petraeus? i think the biggest question again, martha, four dead americans, potential cover-up after benghazi. did this affair affect the cover-up or the alleged cover-up. >> or was it just "gossip girls."....
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the fbi's role, the fbi as you know wears two hats. they have a criminal responsibility as well as a national security responsibility. and the fbi's role is really looking domestically to gather intelligence and mitigate the threat. and the fbi does that in a variety of ways, clicking intelligence, sharing it with others and government sharing it with the private sector. the primary goal really trying to attribute he was conducting these attacks but is it a criminal group? is a nationstate? is it a terrorist group? >> host: how is the fbi performing? >> guest: i think the fbi is performing as was again under the circumstances. i've said that we're not winning the fight although we've won many battles but we are not winning long-term because the offense outpaces the defense. the sophisticated adversaries are becoming more sophisticated. there are more groups, adversarial groups that are getting online because of the value of the data. it's incredibly valuable and because of that many of these groups are moving their criminal enterprises
the fbi's role, the fbi as you know wears two hats. they have a criminal responsibility as well as a national security responsibility. and the fbi's role is really looking domestically to gather intelligence and mitigate the threat. and the fbi does that in a variety of ways, clicking intelligence, sharing it with others and government sharing it with the private sector. the primary goal really trying to attribute he was conducting these attacks but is it a criminal group? is a nationstate? is...
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so it does raise the question why didn't the fbi -- why did the fbi do the briefing then, only on election day, if the investigation on classified information was still open. >> right. it flies in the face of the reason they supposedly finally did let clapper know. anyway, mike isikoff, thanks very much. >>> up next, if democrats don't get the deal they want, will they let the country go over the fiscal cliff? that's the big question that hangs out there over the president over some democrats. senator patti murray joins me next. on that and how she defied the odds and ended up adding more democrats to the senate. is it one or two? we'll find out in a minute. independents day, the question we all think we know the answer to but maine's senator elect will announce which party he's planning to caucus with. >>> first a look ahead at the schedule of the president. a press conference at 1:30 and then he meets with the ceos after the press conference. you're watching "the daily rundown." the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually us
so it does raise the question why didn't the fbi -- why did the fbi do the briefing then, only on election day, if the investigation on classified information was still open. >> right. it flies in the face of the reason they supposedly finally did let clapper know. anyway, mike isikoff, thanks very much. >>> up next, if democrats don't get the deal they want, will they let the country go over the fiscal cliff? that's the big question that hangs out there over the president over...
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we will deal with the fbi -- and i think we should deal with the fbi, on security on the question of the line of notification. going forward we cannot have the white house not being informed, if it's necessary in the protection of the american people. >> the question is time. >> congresswoman sheila jackson lee, thank you so much for your time. let's go back to dana and to you susan. dana, you first. the issue about david petraeus. what was known, what happened when, the president did address the issue yesterday, though he moved on quickly. should the president have been notified earlier? >> it sounds like as a general matter, what the congresswoman is saying is correct. there should be some definition of when an investigation needs to be brought up. but certainly if the fbi is looking to something in the white house you want want them alerting the white house. in the case of petraeus, nobody is furnishing any evidence that national security was compromised in any way. which raises the question, why was this so important in the first place and why is this worth ending the career of t
we will deal with the fbi -- and i think we should deal with the fbi, on security on the question of the line of notification. going forward we cannot have the white house not being informed, if it's necessary in the protection of the american people. >> the question is time. >> congresswoman sheila jackson lee, thank you so much for your time. let's go back to dana and to you susan. dana, you first. the issue about david petraeus. what was known, what happened when, the president...
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an official told abc news, the fbi uncovered hundred if not thousand of e-mails between david petraeus and his biograph biographer, paula broadwell. many of them salacious in nature. earlier this summer, jill kelley received anonymous threat tenning e-mails the fbi traced to broadwell's computer. there they discovered evidence of her affair with petraeus. general allen received one e-mail traced to broadwell that claimed jill kelley was a seductress. the president was sur pried when he heard of the petraeus s situation last week. rob, paula, back to you. >> all right, thank you, kiren. >>> we are learning much more about the tampa socialite at the center of this scandal. jill kelley has a special license plate, designating her as an honorary consul. title given by korean embassy. but is carries no official responsibilities. nor does it grant any immunities or even pay a sty penned. though she has not been accused of any wrongdoing just yet. kelley hired a,000 top criminal defense attorney and signed on with a publicist. the same one hired by, yeah, wait for it. monica lewinsky. interes
an official told abc news, the fbi uncovered hundred if not thousand of e-mails between david petraeus and his biograph biographer, paula broadwell. many of them salacious in nature. earlier this summer, jill kelley received anonymous threat tenning e-mails the fbi traced to broadwell's computer. there they discovered evidence of her affair with petraeus. general allen received one e-mail traced to broadwell that claimed jill kelley was a seductress. the president was sur pried when he heard of...
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have confidence in the fbi. not a ringing endorsement. he said i generally have confidence but let me get all the facts about what happened. the fbi under robert muller, who has so much integrity and is highly respected, argues they were doing the right thing. the fbi agent interestingly, this is what we found out today, the fbi agent who brought this originally to congress and to eric cantor who called muller, says he never meant to be a whistle-blower. he was not trying to make a big deal about this case. he just wanted to quietly get it moving and he told a friend who went to a congressman from washington state where fredrick humphries is from who went to eric cantor and that's how it got to muller. >> okay, okay. >> he's being incorrectly called a whistle-blower. >> sari, he goes to a congress person, going outside of his agency, about a person who is being accuse -- somebody who is making accusations of being harassed by e-mail. is that important enough hearing from some other woman jealous of her, that tha
have confidence in the fbi. not a ringing endorsement. he said i generally have confidence but let me get all the facts about what happened. the fbi under robert muller, who has so much integrity and is highly respected, argues they were doing the right thing. the fbi agent interestingly, this is what we found out today, the fbi agent who brought this originally to congress and to eric cantor who called muller, says he never meant to be a whistle-blower. he was not trying to make a big deal...
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there was a thing about the fbi not coming back for three weeks. they had to make sure their lives are at risk. we had to rely at the beginning with an unorganized government .orking with us heade we talked some about susan rice. she got a lot of the same affirmation we did. i will make a comparison to:pal. getting information from the administration on the fax. -- colin powell. i said they knew right away they were terrorists involved in the operation. >> did you understand my question? if we do within 24 hours it was terraced related, how come five days later she is still saying it was a spontaneous demonstration? >> i did not talk to susan rice. she received information. he was not a part of briefing susan rice. affirmation can together with different agencies that came along giving of permission to susan rice or anyone else. >> he was the head of the -- >> he was the head of the cia. he personally did not believe this is an arrest. >> does he not over see all of the -- >> part of the team of the cia which he is in charge, yes. the bottom line i
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september -- >> so just two months ago -- >> just two months ago, while the fbi investigation was going on, both general petraeus and cia director and general allen and as commander of u.s. forces in afghanistan, within two days of each other, write letters vouching for the sister of jill kelley saying she deserves more time with her son. a judge had placed very strict limits on her visitation with her own son after awarding custody to her ex-husband. the judge had found -- the judge had found, and i quote, that jill kelley's sister has extreme personal deficits in the areas of honesty and integrity. that was in a court ruling in november of 2011. and then in september of 2012 the director of the cia is writing a letter vouching for -- >> so, the judge has this assessment of jill's -- >> jill kelley's sister. >> right, right. >> and then general petraeus, as districter of the cia and general allen both wrote letters this past september on behalf of this sister as a favor to jill kelley? >> well, we can presume as a favor to jill kelley, general petraeus, then-cia director petraeus refer
september -- >> so just two months ago -- >> just two months ago, while the fbi investigation was going on, both general petraeus and cia director and general allen and as commander of u.s. forces in afghanistan, within two days of each other, write letters vouching for the sister of jill kelley saying she deserves more time with her son. a judge had placed very strict limits on her visitation with her own son after awarding custody to her ex-husband. the judge had found -- the...
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came from high-level special agents and the fbi. but for the most part this nation was caught flatfooted, well-prepared to do large-scale interrogations', and we have slowly, slowly tried to improve that. i think to the obama administration's credit when he came into office to set up something called the high
came from high-level special agents and the fbi. but for the most part this nation was caught flatfooted, well-prepared to do large-scale interrogations', and we have slowly, slowly tried to improve that. i think to the obama administration's credit when he came into office to set up something called the high
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he said he wasn't informed about petraeus, yet the fbi was investigating, he said he can't answer questions about whether he was informed because an investigation's going on. well, whether an investigation's going on doesn't keep him from admiding what he knows about whether he was informed. cya for obama. >> sean: look, there is a legal definition, you are both attorneys. there is a legal definition of lying under oath and there is a penalty for that. >> yeah. >> sean: but if somebody lies for political reasons to the american people, do they just lose -- >> perjury is perjury. high crimes are high crimes, misdemeanors are misdemeanors. we are not at that point, yet. >> sean: i agree. >> we are at the point of full disclosure, at this point. i am not the president. i don't aspire to the president, nor do you. but if i am the president, my inclination is to say, listen, i found out about this at 5:00. i directed the secretary of state to do this. i directed the secretary of defense to do that. >> sean: there is one problem. he flew to vegas. >> that is a problem. that's why we are not getti
he said he wasn't informed about petraeus, yet the fbi was investigating, he said he can't answer questions about whether he was informed because an investigation's going on. well, whether an investigation's going on doesn't keep him from admiding what he knows about whether he was informed. cya for obama. >> sean: look, there is a legal definition, you are both attorneys. there is a legal definition of lying under oath and there is a penalty for that. >> yeah. >> sean: but if...
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between themmis complicated: involving the fbi, cia, ppntagon, the white houseeand congress. "i am puzzled by much of what has occurred in to an affair with broadwell, which amm to light when the fbi investigated what one u-s official has described ass "jealous" emails broadwell sent to elley. now, general allen is under investigation for allegedly sending to kelley email messages one defense official escrrbed as "flirtatiius." defense officials say authorities are pages of documents. "it - really makes yoo wonderrhow he it, and the motivation to do o - that from afar." the news about allen--which the national security council spooesman says president obama learned about the same day petraeus resigned-- has put allen's nominntion to be nato's supreme allied commander on hold..allen denies any wrongdoing and &premains on duty in afghanistan. "the presidentt has great confidence ii the military, great coofidence in the commander, and will continue to have that confidence." a defenss official tells cnn there's a defense department ty" the investigation into allennis connected to
between themmis complicated: involving the fbi, cia, ppntagon, the white houseeand congress. "i am puzzled by much of what has occurred in to an affair with broadwell, which amm to light when the fbi investigated what one u-s official has described ass "jealous" emails broadwell sent to elley. now, general allen is under investigation for allegedly sending to kelley email messages one defense official escrrbed as "flirtatiius." defense officials say authorities are...